INTERESTING
CORRESPONDENCE
03/03/2009
This evening the Victorian committee
attended a second special meeting, at which we upheld our previous motion to
suspend our player Mohammed Hegazi from tournament play for one year, from
November 1st [2008].
As Mohammed did not attend the meeting we will now write to him to advise him of our final decision, and give him the right to appeal. If he does, we will have to arrange a special meeting of our members, at which Mohammed may appeal to the membership and have them vote on the ban.
At our ordinary committee meeting, which followed the special meeting, we passed a motion to the effect that Victoria will not accept entry to tournaments from any player who, at the time, is banned by his/her state or territory association. I believe that you already have this clause in place, "BJ". I'm not sure what you can do about Mohammed's entry to your Championship, "OR", its something you'll have to work out with your committee.
Most of the reasons for the ban have been publicised by Mohammed himself on his personal blog, with the exception of two important documents, the first a second accusation of cheating directed at Mohammed himself*, and the second a very nasty, racist and threatening email to Kow, in response to her earlier accusation of cheating against Mohammed**. If anyone is interested in reading these for completion please let me know and I will forward them to you. There are several links to different pages on the following website -
http://scrabbledetective.blogspot.com/2008/06/extent-of-scrabble-cheating.html
This has been an unpleasant episode and I'm not sure that it is behind us as yet.
Needless to say I am very grateful for the supportive committee I have here in Victoria.
Kind regards to all,
MM.
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It is now official that Victoria has banned Mohammed Hegazi for one year - here is the motion as it appears in our minutes -
4. CONFIRMATION OR REVOCATION OF RESOLUTION:
RESOLUTION of Special Meeting held on 18th September, 2008
In accordance with Rule 10.1 of the ASPA (Victoria) Inc Constitution, we find that Mohammed Hegazi has neglected to comply with these rules and is guilty of conduct unbecoming a member and prejudicial to the interests of the Association, and that he be suspended from attending or participating in all ASPA (Victoria) Inc. tournaments for 1 year commencing Saturday November 1st, 2008.
MOVED: "GK"/"TH" CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
RESOLUTION: (October 16 2008)
That the Resolution passed unanimously at the Special Meeting held on September 18th, 2008 regarding Mohammed Hegazi be upheld and that during the period Saturday November 1st, 2008 to Saturday October 31st, 2009, inclusive, the Committee reserves the right, on behalf of the members of the Association, to review this decision and the extent to which it shall be applied in the event that further allegations are made against Mr. Hegazi***.
MOVED: "NF"/"AF" CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
It is likely that he would have escaped with a warning, were it not for the email he sent to Kow, which was the deciding factor. I have attached a copy if you wish to read it, as it will demonstrate the serious and unacceptable nature of his behaviour.**
I am aware of the email which he sent yesterday to several people around Australia, in which he states that I have asked Tasmania and the Capital Territory to refuse his entry to their tournaments. "AM" and "OR" will confirm that I have not done so, but I don't intend to challenge Mohammed re his twisting of the facts - I shall just keep it on file for future reference,
Kind regards, and thank you all for your support in this matter,
MM
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Thank you, "AM", I seem to have missed your email till now. If the need arises you could inform him of the actual chain of events, but at the moment I'm happy to leave the matter rest.
As Mohammed did not attend the meeting we will now write to him to advise him of our final decision, and give him the right to appeal. If he does, we will have to arrange a special meeting of our members, at which Mohammed may appeal to the membership and have them vote on the ban.
At our ordinary committee meeting, which followed the special meeting, we passed a motion to the effect that Victoria will not accept entry to tournaments from any player who, at the time, is banned by his/her state or territory association. I believe that you already have this clause in place, "BJ". I'm not sure what you can do about Mohammed's entry to your Championship, "OR", its something you'll have to work out with your committee.
Most of the reasons for the ban have been publicised by Mohammed himself on his personal blog, with the exception of two important documents, the first a second accusation of cheating directed at Mohammed himself*, and the second a very nasty, racist and threatening email to Kow, in response to her earlier accusation of cheating against Mohammed**. If anyone is interested in reading these for completion please let me know and I will forward them to you. There are several links to different pages on the following website -
http://scrabbledetective.blogspot.com/2008/06/extent-of-scrabble-cheating.html
This has been an unpleasant episode and I'm not sure that it is behind us as yet.
Needless to say I am very grateful for the supportive committee I have here in Victoria.
Kind regards to all,
MM.
_______________________
It is now official that Victoria has banned Mohammed Hegazi for one year - here is the motion as it appears in our minutes -
4. CONFIRMATION OR REVOCATION OF RESOLUTION:
RESOLUTION of Special Meeting held on 18th September, 2008
In accordance with Rule 10.1 of the ASPA (Victoria) Inc Constitution, we find that Mohammed Hegazi has neglected to comply with these rules and is guilty of conduct unbecoming a member and prejudicial to the interests of the Association, and that he be suspended from attending or participating in all ASPA (Victoria) Inc. tournaments for 1 year commencing Saturday November 1st, 2008.
MOVED: "GK"/"TH" CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
RESOLUTION: (October 16 2008)
That the Resolution passed unanimously at the Special Meeting held on September 18th, 2008 regarding Mohammed Hegazi be upheld and that during the period Saturday November 1st, 2008 to Saturday October 31st, 2009, inclusive, the Committee reserves the right, on behalf of the members of the Association, to review this decision and the extent to which it shall be applied in the event that further allegations are made against Mr. Hegazi***.
MOVED: "NF"/"AF" CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
It is likely that he would have escaped with a warning, were it not for the email he sent to Kow, which was the deciding factor. I have attached a copy if you wish to read it, as it will demonstrate the serious and unacceptable nature of his behaviour.**
I am aware of the email which he sent yesterday to several people around Australia, in which he states that I have asked Tasmania and the Capital Territory to refuse his entry to their tournaments. "AM" and "OR" will confirm that I have not done so, but I don't intend to challenge Mohammed re his twisting of the facts - I shall just keep it on file for future reference,
Kind regards, and thank you all for your support in this matter,
MM
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Thank you, "AM", I seem to have missed your email till now. If the need arises you could inform him of the actual chain of events, but at the moment I'm happy to leave the matter rest.
I would hope that anyone who received the email from Mohammed would have sufficient commonsense to know that he has misrepresented the facts, and certainly I think that anyone who knows me, and the Victorian Committee members personally, would realise that we aren't persecuting him.
Kind regards,
MM
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Dear MM
I cannot understand how Mohammed can give such publicity to his own bad behaviour, and his terrifying ethnic prejudices and delusions, and then have the gaul (sic) to suggest he is being victimised. I have been aware for a long time of his repeated accusations of cheating, - usually made against people such as you, proving he is a coward - but the more I have learned about him, the more I have been amazed (and concerned) that such a person has been attending Scrabble tournaments.
I briefly thought he may have woken up to himself when he said he would abide by the Tasmanian committee's decision, but his subsequent ravings have proved he hasn't (and never will). However, I remain hopeful that he will stay away from our tournament. [*]
Congratulations on the resolve you and your members have shown in dealing with this man. I know it has been a painful experience. Hopefully you will be rewarded by seeing some of the people he has scared off, returning to tournaments****.
Very best wishes
Alan Mathews
* [Would I want to
rub shoulders with such character?]
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Thank you for your thoughts, "AM", the best thing I can say is that he marches to the beat of a different drum.
We are also hopeful that our tournament numbers may pick up somewhat, it has taken quite a degree of resolve on the part of our regular attendees to continue supporting our tournaments, and as I've mentioned before I am grateful for the strength and support of our committee members.
I sincerely hope that your Championship runs smoothly and happily,
MM
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My Comment:
* This is a reference to a momentary dispute over the calculation of extra time on the clock, after a certain game against a habitual cheat that infuriated me to no end and affected my ability to remain composed. It was sorted out in a few seconds. However, making reference to it, by Mrs Miller, as an "important" "cheating attempt" is a very sneaky Shylockian method that casts a smear and implicitly suggests that I am the subject of genuine complaints of cheating. Such smear was resounded by "TH" from NSW on a discussion board, in the form of an 'innocent' question about 'people who actually try to cheat after being falsely accused of cheating.'
**Below is the email sent to Kow, to which reference is made above by MM. I refused to discuss it at the Committee meeting. It was supposed to be a private and confidential email. I tried to make it as nasty as the terrible unsubstantiated accusation levelled at me by an unsophisticated mind, that would not appreciate a civil dialogue. I had no intention at that stage to expose any Shylockian attitudes within the scrabble community. I have had no intention to confront scrabble Shylocks, UNTIL they declared war on me. The threat to expose Kow has now been fully carried out, by clearly demonstrating in a simple logical manner, on this blog, how she has been a blatant Shylockian liar [Blog archive Sept 2008.] Geoff Wright, the Tournament Director was watching that particular game, which finished much later than the rest. He was exchanging whispering comments with her at the time. If there were a shade of truth in her story, she should have alerted him on the spot. Mrs Miller should have discussed this matter with him, had she not been party to this dirty affair. Maybe she did discuss it with him and could not extract a result to her satisfaction. When this was explained to the Committee, the response was amazing. Andrew Fisher simply and sarcastically sneered at the mental capacity and awareness of Geoff Wright, instead of suggesting a reprimand for the offending Kow, who formally made an unsubstantiated allegation against a fellow player. Here is the much vaunted email upon which ten people, presumably sane, based their "unanimous" decision:
To: Iratekow@------
I have fought many a battle against fanatic jews in and outside Australia. This scrabble fiasco is nothing but a ripple in a turbulent ocean. I can handle it with ease. Scrabble tournaments are nothing but a minor pastime for me, which I often thought of quitting whenever I reflected on the extent of its infestation by cheats.
You know damn well that your story is a fabrication. I tried hard to find an excuse for you, such as a tile accidentally falling off the rack onto my lap and me reaching for it, but I could not recall such an accident happening.
I am prepared to give you one last chance to withdraw your heinous complaint, in exchange for giving you my word not to discuss this matter with any third party. If you click on the small sample of links below, you might know a little bit more about my determination and appreciate how generous my offer is. If you elect to be stubborn and carry on with your gang of conniving prejudiced fanatic jews, I promise to expose you in a very unpleasant manner. I will give you one week to consult with your fellow jews.
http://www.adl.org/main_International_Affairs/iran_holocaust_conference.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_5
http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/images/%7BD6933DD3-9DFF-4375-B3CA-C653D9FA5F7E%7D.pdf
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Thank you for your thoughts, "AM", the best thing I can say is that he marches to the beat of a different drum.
We are also hopeful that our tournament numbers may pick up somewhat, it has taken quite a degree of resolve on the part of our regular attendees to continue supporting our tournaments, and as I've mentioned before I am grateful for the strength and support of our committee members.
I sincerely hope that your Championship runs smoothly and happily,
MM
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My Comment:
* This is a reference to a momentary dispute over the calculation of extra time on the clock, after a certain game against a habitual cheat that infuriated me to no end and affected my ability to remain composed. It was sorted out in a few seconds. However, making reference to it, by Mrs Miller, as an "important" "cheating attempt" is a very sneaky Shylockian method that casts a smear and implicitly suggests that I am the subject of genuine complaints of cheating. Such smear was resounded by "TH" from NSW on a discussion board, in the form of an 'innocent' question about 'people who actually try to cheat after being falsely accused of cheating.'
**Below is the email sent to Kow, to which reference is made above by MM. I refused to discuss it at the Committee meeting. It was supposed to be a private and confidential email. I tried to make it as nasty as the terrible unsubstantiated accusation levelled at me by an unsophisticated mind, that would not appreciate a civil dialogue. I had no intention at that stage to expose any Shylockian attitudes within the scrabble community. I have had no intention to confront scrabble Shylocks, UNTIL they declared war on me. The threat to expose Kow has now been fully carried out, by clearly demonstrating in a simple logical manner, on this blog, how she has been a blatant Shylockian liar [Blog archive Sept 2008.] Geoff Wright, the Tournament Director was watching that particular game, which finished much later than the rest. He was exchanging whispering comments with her at the time. If there were a shade of truth in her story, she should have alerted him on the spot. Mrs Miller should have discussed this matter with him, had she not been party to this dirty affair. Maybe she did discuss it with him and could not extract a result to her satisfaction. When this was explained to the Committee, the response was amazing. Andrew Fisher simply and sarcastically sneered at the mental capacity and awareness of Geoff Wright, instead of suggesting a reprimand for the offending Kow, who formally made an unsubstantiated allegation against a fellow player. Here is the much vaunted email upon which ten people, presumably sane, based their "unanimous" decision:
To: Iratekow@------
I have fought many a battle against fanatic jews in and outside Australia. This scrabble fiasco is nothing but a ripple in a turbulent ocean. I can handle it with ease. Scrabble tournaments are nothing but a minor pastime for me, which I often thought of quitting whenever I reflected on the extent of its infestation by cheats.
You know damn well that your story is a fabrication. I tried hard to find an excuse for you, such as a tile accidentally falling off the rack onto my lap and me reaching for it, but I could not recall such an accident happening.
I am prepared to give you one last chance to withdraw your heinous complaint, in exchange for giving you my word not to discuss this matter with any third party. If you click on the small sample of links below, you might know a little bit more about my determination and appreciate how generous my offer is. If you elect to be stubborn and carry on with your gang of conniving prejudiced fanatic jews, I promise to expose you in a very unpleasant manner. I will give you one week to consult with your fellow jews.
http://www.adl.org/main_International_Affairs/iran_holocaust_conference.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_5
http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/images/%7BD6933DD3-9DFF-4375-B3CA-C653D9FA5F7E%7D.pdf
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From: "Katie Rowe"
To: "Marj Miller"<
mjwm@connexus.net.au;
Subject: Fw: Offer
Marj and Barry
I wonder if you can give me some advice on
how to handle this. I don't know what to say, except that I am not Jewish.
Unfortunately both my home address and current address are out there for
everyone, and I am actually a little frightened.
Thanks
Katie
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***This is an open ended invitation intended for more fellow Shylocks to come forward with more invented trivia. Shylockian tactics plumb the depths of dishonour and indecency. They include character assassination, wilful distortion of facts, fabrication of falsehoods, and an utter disregard for the truth if it derailed their plans. I think the supply of hard core Shylocks has already been depleted. Members of the clan are not all evil or stupid. I have no doubt that many are not happy with this state of affairs. To them, I would like to emphasise the fact that I did not start this open and ugly encounter; Carol johnsen did in an ignorant and unsophisticated manner. Subsequently, she had the full support of the gang, who responded by initiating this case against me, and to hurriedly collect flimsy evidence over a short period of time, in order to cover up for her incompetent and tactless email.
****In this regard, I suggest that MM should seriously think of hiring larger halls as venues for her future Victorian tournaments. The numbers of returning escapees might be overwhelming, since the total number of players in Victoria is about two hundred. Even if an immediate comparison with past years might not support this assumption, it should happen in a few years as memories of the dreadful villain fade away!
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Some forgive, some forget, some do both. I do neither, I get even. In fact, when properly motivated, I get way more than even. The attitude of this Shylockian gang has given me more than just motivation to fight back.
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***This is an open ended invitation intended for more fellow Shylocks to come forward with more invented trivia. Shylockian tactics plumb the depths of dishonour and indecency. They include character assassination, wilful distortion of facts, fabrication of falsehoods, and an utter disregard for the truth if it derailed their plans. I think the supply of hard core Shylocks has already been depleted. Members of the clan are not all evil or stupid. I have no doubt that many are not happy with this state of affairs. To them, I would like to emphasise the fact that I did not start this open and ugly encounter; Carol johnsen did in an ignorant and unsophisticated manner. Subsequently, she had the full support of the gang, who responded by initiating this case against me, and to hurriedly collect flimsy evidence over a short period of time, in order to cover up for her incompetent and tactless email.
****In this regard, I suggest that MM should seriously think of hiring larger halls as venues for her future Victorian tournaments. The numbers of returning escapees might be overwhelming, since the total number of players in Victoria is about two hundred. Even if an immediate comparison with past years might not support this assumption, it should happen in a few years as memories of the dreadful villain fade away!
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Some forgive, some forget, some do both. I do neither, I get even. In fact, when properly motivated, I get way more than even. The attitude of this Shylockian gang has given me more than just motivation to fight back.
CHEATING CHAMPIONS
06/06/2009
Accused
Scrabble cheat to keep titles
By: Suryatapa
Bhattacharya
The National
( UAE)
January 28.
2009
The Scrabble
champion banned from international competitions for four years for cheating
will not be stripped of his local and regional titles, it was announced
yesterday. The Bahrain
Scrabble League Committee believes the ban “is punishment enough”.
Mohammed Zafar, 19, beat Akshay Bhandarkar from Dubai last June to win the Gulf Scrabble championship. He is also the Bahrain national champion.
Mohammed Zafar, 19, beat Akshay Bhandarkar from Dubai last June to win the Gulf Scrabble championship. He is also the Bahrain national champion.
Mr Zafar, who
denies cheating, was barred by the game’s governing body, the World English
Language Scrabble Players Association (Wespa), for breaking the rule about how
players draw their letters while playing in a tournament in Malaysia in December.
“The decision is not to strip Mohammed of his titles,” said Roy Kietzman, a member of the Bahrain Scrabble League Committee and a special panel of four that met on Monday night in Manama to discuss Wespa’s decision.
“The decision is not to strip Mohammed of his titles,” said Roy Kietzman, a member of the Bahrain Scrabble League Committee and a special panel of four that met on Monday night in Manama to discuss Wespa’s decision.
“We felt it
was humiliation enough to be charged with being guilty and being banned from
Scrabble.
“For him, this is public humiliation in the Scrabble community. We feel this is punishment enough.”
Mr Zafar was accused of taking his tiles from the top of the bag and having a quick peek at them before letting go of any he did not want during the Causeway Challenge, held in Johru Bahar in Malaysia.
“For him, this is public humiliation in the Scrabble community. We feel this is punishment enough.”
Mr Zafar was accused of taking his tiles from the top of the bag and having a quick peek at them before letting go of any he did not want during the Causeway Challenge, held in Johru Bahar in Malaysia.
The rules of
the game state that although players may give the bag a vigorous shake, they
must draw tiles at shoulder length while looking away from the bag.
Mr Zafar is also banned from the Malaysian tournament for life.
The Bahrain Scrabble League Committee says it “fully endorses the Wespa decision that he was guilty”.
Mr Kietzman confirmed that Allan Simmons, the chairman of the Wespa inquiry and Britain’s national champion, had been willing to lower the penalty and cut the time of the ban by half if Mr Zafar had admitted his guilt.
Mr Zafar is also banned from the Malaysian tournament for life.
The Bahrain Scrabble League Committee says it “fully endorses the Wespa decision that he was guilty”.
Mr Kietzman confirmed that Allan Simmons, the chairman of the Wespa inquiry and Britain’s national champion, had been willing to lower the penalty and cut the time of the ban by half if Mr Zafar had admitted his guilt.
“We are
urging Wespa to make strict guidelines on what to do in the future. This was a
precedent.”
Last year, Mr Zafar faced the two-time defending champion of the regional Scrabble title, Mr Bhandarkar, in a thrilling match that saw the use of plurals, bingos [when a player uses all seven letters at once] and plenty of theatrics.
Last year, Mr Zafar faced the two-time defending champion of the regional Scrabble title, Mr Bhandarkar, in a thrilling match that saw the use of plurals, bingos [when a player uses all seven letters at once] and plenty of theatrics.
My Comment:
I followed
the news about this cheating incident. Previous articles gave me the wrong
impression that the player only had a peek into a lowered bag, which is common
practice among many local cheats here. However, the explanation given by this
article is quite clear:
"Mr Zafar
was accused of taking his tiles from the top of the bag and having a quick peek
at them before letting go of any he did not want."
This is one
of the worst cheating methods, which was practised against me a few times in
tournaments, and is being practised on a weekly basis by a couple of players at
my scrabble club.
Cheating
wise, it is a very effective method that would give the cheat a decisive
advantage. If, for example, the cheat had their partial rack full of vowels,
they could drop back every vowel they come across while replenishing their
rack. It saves them the need to lose their turn in order to change some tiles.
Even then, the change often proves disastrous.
This Zafar
boy is particularly impertinent for being my namesake! He should shove his name
back into the bag and pick another one, hopefully not a blank.
WHAT HAS ALLUDULLA
GOT TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF FISH?
24/09/2010
While my past
observation on cheating in scrabble was based on my own personal experience
with cheating opponents, my present assessment will be extended to ask the
question: Why are the rules of the Australian Scrabble
Players Association (ASPA) out of tune with the international rules devised by
the World English-Language Scrabble Players' Association (WESPA)?
After careful analytical examination of the results of the
Ulladulla tournament held in September 2010, I came to the conclusion that ASPA
rules are inferior to WESPA rules. Consider the following comparison:
ASPA RULES:
Selecting Tiles
5.1 You must hold the tile bag above the level of the table and
so that no tiles in the bag can be seen. Remove tiles in full view of your
opponent.
5.2 You may not put your hand back into the tile bag whilst you
still have tiles in that hand. All drawn tiles must be placed on the rack or
the table before drawing any more.
Compare the above to WESPA rules:
3.9.1 Bag Position
When drawing from the bag, a player must:
(a) hold the bag so that the rim of the bag is at or above eye
level;
(b) avert his or her eyes from the bag; and
(c) keep the bag in full view of the opponent.
3.9.2 Drawing Protocols
(a) While doing so may be helpful to avoid overdrawing, players
need not draw tiles individually.
(b) A player must not put a hand into the tile bag if that hand
contains tiles. All drawn tiles must be placed on the rack or the table before
further tiles are drawn.
(c) It is mandatory to show an empty hand both before and after
drawing replacement tiles.
(d) Replacement tiles must be drawn with reasonable speed.
WESPA Rule 3.9.1(a) is succinct and precise. It certainly keeps
the tiles out of sight, while ASPA Rule 5.1 is poorly worded and assumes the
existence of a hypothetical standard-height table.
While both ASPA and WESPA rules do emphasise the importance of
having an empty hand, only WESPA’s rules have a built-in guarantee, in clauses
3.9.2(c) and 3.9.2(d), that such dishonesty would not occur. Rule 3.9.2(c)
eliminates the ugly sight of that fist returning unwanted tiles to the bag.
Rule 3.9.2(d) prevents cheating players from examining withdrawn tiles with an
eye on slipping unwanted tiles back into the bag. The place where honest
players examine their tiles is their rack. It has been my experience with
dishonest players that withdrawn tiles lurk unnecessarily in the vicinity of
the top of the bag, often requiring the assistance of the other hand.
players with vested interest in maintaining the status quo, would
be quick to suggest that WESPA’s anti-cheating measures are unbecoming because
cheating does not exist.
Cheers!
A SATISFYING LOSS
16/11/2010
People usually hate
to lose in scrabble tournaments. However, I have recently had a very satisfying
loss in Canberra.
The reason is simply because I have developed over the years a sharp sense of
being able to quickly figure out who cheat, their method of cheating, and how
to deal with most cheats.
One interesting observation is that cheats will never take a
hint and when approached in a friendly manner, they would pretend to be
offended by such insinuation. However, they would continue to cheat regardless.
I met simplistic cheats, whose elementary method is to
contravene Australian rules by exposing tiles inside the bag and lowering it
below table level. I managed to resolve this nagging problem by taking a stern
straightforward stand, rather than hint or watch helplessly in order not to
“rock the boat”. I achieved my goal on the second day of the tournament and
managed to get a couple of seasoned chronic cheats to follow the rules. It
wasn’t easy and I once had to shout at a nosy player that my discussion with my
opponent was “none of her business”. It amazes me that those who vehemently
deny the fact that Scrabble cheating does exist are usually the cheats
themselves.
One harder problem remains. It is the sneaky devil who slips
unwanted tiles back into the bag. There is nothing in ASPA rules that may help
solve this problem. If you catch the culprit in the act, you have no means of
proving your claim. This problem has been sorted out in WESPA rules, where a
hand approaching the bag has to be shown to be empty. When I started playing
scrabble, I thought the rule was offensive, not to mention the fact that I have
a natural antipathy towards anything American. However, I could see the wisdom
behind the strange rule, after many years of facing so many cheats.
During that Canberra
tournament, I lost twice to a certain cheat, who was not from ACT or NSW. Her
cheating technique was to draw tiles from the bag one by one and examine them
while stacking them in a raw on the table. Towards the end of the process, one
unwanted tile would quickly be “palmed” and returned to the bag. When it
happened, I could only mumble a hint to the effect that I have detected the
offence. The culprit must have had carefully weighed the ramifications of being
detected and was ready to respond if an accusation were levelled at her. My
consolation is that I know that I would certainly have won if the field was
level. As such, it was a satisfying loss.
It is becoming clear to me that the reason ASPA rules are not in
line with WESPA rules is because some players do have vested interest in not
adopting some superior WESPA rules. There are two WESPA rules that would end
all forms of scrabble cheating in Australia. As to bag position
during drawing tiles, ASPA rules made reference to “shoulder height”. That was
later changed to a more dubious “above table level”, the assumption being that
all tables are born of equal height! Here are the two relevant WESPA rules:
3.9.1 Bag Position
When drawing from the bag, a player must:
(a) hold the bag so that the rim of the bag is at or above
eye level;
(b) avert his or her eyes from the bag; and
(c) keep the bag in full view of the opponent.
3.9.2 Drawing Protocols
(a) While doing so may be helpful to avoid
overdrawing, players need not draw tiles individually.
(b) A player must not put a hand into the
tile bag if that hand contains tiles.
All drawn tiles must be placed on the rack or
the table before further tiles are drawn.
(c) It is
mandatory to show an empty hand both before and after drawing replacement tiles
(see Rule 3.7.1 (Procedure for Shuffling or
Counting Tiles)).
(d) Replacement
tiles must be drawn with reasonable speed.
Interesting
19/07/2011
From: carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>
To: carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>
Date: 17 July 2011 15:12
Subject: Revised Notice of ASPA (Vic) AGM
mailed-by: gmail.com
The Annual General
Meeting of our Association will take place during the Midwinter Tournament, at
approximately 1.30pm on Sunday August 14th 2011 at the Box Hill
Senior Citizens Centre, 79
Carrington Road, Box Hill.
Elections will be
held for all positions: President, Vice-President, Secretary, Treasurer,
Membership Officer, Ratings Officer, Rules Officer, Publicity Officer, and up
to two other Committee members.
Nominations must be
made in writing, signed by two members of the Association and accompanied by
the written consent of the candidate, and submitted to Secretary, Cheryle
Jerram, 28 Donald Road, Burwood 3125 no later than August 7 2011.
New items for
business on the agenda to be discussed at the AGM closed on July 10.
Motions to be put forward at the ASPA (Vic) Inc Annual
General Meeting on August 14 2011
1. MOTION: to
increase the annual membership subscription to $20, with effect from
01/07/2012.
Proposed Membership Structure from July 1 2012:
Adults: $20.00 per annum
Juniors: $10.00 per annum (must be aged 17 and under on July 1st)
New members:
If joining prior to March 31st, $20.00
If joining after March 31st, there are two options -
Pay $10 for the remainder of the financial year
OR
Pay $25 and become financial till July 1st of the following year
Proposed Membership Structure from July 1 2012:
Adults: $20.00 per annum
Juniors: $10.00 per annum (must be aged 17 and under on July 1st)
New members:
If joining prior to March 31st, $20.00
If joining after March 31st, there are two options -
Pay $10 for the remainder of the financial year
OR
Pay $25 and become financial till July 1st of the following year
Moved: Marj Miller
Seconded: Norma Fisher
Seconded: Norma Fisher
2. MOTION: to adopt
the National Rules, with effect from August 15 2011
Moved: Marj Miller
Seconded: Norma Fisher
Moved: Marj Miller
Seconded: Norma Fisher
3. MOTION: Members of ASPA(Vic) hereby extend an apology to ASPA (Vic) member Mohammed Hegazi, in relation to an unsubstantiated claim of cheating made against him.
The claim of cheating is attached herewith as “addendum (1) to motion”; a statement by Mohammed Hegai is attached as “addendum (2) to motion”
Moved: Tess Robinson
Seconded: Geoff Wright
Addendum (1) to motion:
On 12 May at the XB
tournament, I was disturbed to notice a player cheating with the tiles in one
of the rated games.
John Mina was
playing Mohammed Hegazi, and I was seated beside Mohammed. My game had finished
so I was watching play on their board, when Mohammed made a move leaving 2
tiles on his rack. JM took a fairly long time to respond, and while he was
doing so Mohammed slipped one of his tiles onto his chair, under his leg. That
enabled him to go out on the last move.
He won the game, but
he was far enough ahead to win anyway, unless JM went out with a bingo.
I was uncomfortable
about saying anything at the time, aware of etiquette in not commenting on other
competitors’ plays at rated tournaments, but I was distressed to see it, given
the frequency with which Mohammed accuses other players of cheating.
Perhaps I should have reported this earlier. I apologise for not doing so.
Signed: Katie Rowe
Addendum (2) to motion
Statement by Mohammed Hegazi
I make reference to an allegation of cheating made against me by Ms Katie Rowe. She was watching the game in question together with the TD, Geoff Wright, until the very end of the game. They were exchanging whispering comments about the game. Ms Rowe claims that etiquette prevented her from reporting the alleged incident to the TD at the time, yet she saw fit to report it in writing to Mrs Marj Miller, 5 months after the tournament. Mrs Miller in turn saw fit to table such unsubstantiated claim for discussion with me in a Committee meeting.
If Ms Rowe’s story had any shade of truth in it, she should have alerted the TD to the incident at the time. The TD would have ascertained the validity of her claim.
Mohammed Hegazi
_____________________________________________________
The above is a simple “cut and paste” job.
Tess Robinson from Ballarat is a Victorian
scrabble icon. She has been running the Ballarat Scrabble Club for more than a
decade. Those of us who participated in her regular tournaments are familiar
with her warm friendly demeanour. In appreciation of Tess’ pleasant company, I
visit her club every now and then in order to enjoy a rewarding day of
scrabble.
I am really honoured by her moving a
principled motion to exonerate me from the heinous unfounded accusation of
cheating levelled at me in 2008. I am equally honoured by Geoff Wright’s
unfaltering seconding of the motion. However, neither Tess nor Geoff would be
available for secondment of the motion during the AGM of ASPA (Vic) on 14
August 2011. Tess has church commitments on Sundays. Geoff has long decided not
to attend any such meetings, for reasons unknown to me. I can only assume that,
like many others including my humble self, Geoff is not impressed by the
lacklustre pompous attitude of some Committee members.
As to the outcome of the motion, I don’t
really give a damn. I feel already vindicated, even if a show of hands would
prove that the Shylockian factor overrides principle.
If you became curious, come back for a
surprise about mid-August. As for me, nothing coming out from this mob would
surprise me. Mrs Miller already told David More of NSW that, "It had been
proven that Mohammed cheated"!
Motion and Emotion
19/08/2011
Even though the outcome of the motion was to
be expected, the sneaky means to it was a bit strange. The head Shylock
insisted on a secret ballot. I objected and offered to have a walk away from
the meeting while the issue would be decided by a show of hands. My offer was
turned down. I do not think that the outcome would have drastically changed,
except that the number of abstentions would have increased at the expense of
those against; some would have wanted to look less stupid. The number of those
for would have marginally increased, as a few more would have wanted to look
more respectable. Anyway, the following cut-and-paste correspondence might shed
more light on the stupidity of ASPA(Vic):
Hi Harry,
I will be
playing tomorrow (Tuesday) at the Ballarat Club. Tess Robinson will ask me
about what happened with her AGM motion. I have already forgotten about the
resulting figures; I did not even cast a vote myself. Could you please tell me
about these figures, if you can still remember them, even approximately.
I might as
well reiterate my appreciation and gratitude for your principled stand on this
matter, which flew above the heads of the simple minds that took the idea of an
apology to be a glorified ego trip for me. Now, every Tom, Dick and Katie can
level a false accusation at any player and get away with it.
Mohammed
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Hi Mohammed
I think it
was 8 for, 16 abstained, 35 against.
My reading of
that is that
1) adding
Tess, Geoff and yourself makes 11, plus 16 didn't back VicASPA = 27 who didn't
back VicASPA.
2) taking
away 9 self serving committee votes from 35 leaves 26 who backed VicASPA.
Either way,
Vic ASPA should review the decision to leave the shocking precedent on their
books, regardless of the vote.
You can't
have a body like VicASPA paste the terrible tag of cheat on the basis of 5
month old hearsay, notwithstanding no supporting complaint from other observers
or the opponent, ie no admissible evidence.
Interesting
to see Katie did not intend to write but was "asked to".
Your paths
are possibly
a) wait a
month and see if there is anything develop after the next VicASPA meeting
b) write to
them interpreting the vote as not adequate to support their finding
c) write and
ask them to review on the basis that they have used inadmissible evidence
d) write a
dissenting report and require it to always be attached to any copy of their
finding in the future
e) appeal to
a higher authority that governs the Committee's registration
f) ask them
to publish guidelines to proving cheating beyond reasonable doubt (or on
balance)
I would be
hoping they reflect on the decision themselves and decide its a dangerous
precedent to set, and therefore remove it. I think they did not know all the
relevant law and might reconsider.
Main thing is
enjoy your games, be happy, laugh a lot and try and minimise the insult and
injustice you feel.
One thing you
can always feel good about is the properly designed tile bags across Australia,
which I know the Committee put a lot of work into getting right. They do want
to get things right but I think they have erred in your case and deserve a
chance to make amendments.
Good luck
Harry
Going Public with More Lies to Cover other Lies
10/10/2011
RE:
[ozscrabble] Lost Basics
Friday, 30 September,
2011 6:07 PM
From:"Trevor
Halsall"
To:"Harry
Malcolm" ,"Scrabble List"
Hi Harry.
Sounds like you're on a bit of a crusade here. Did you read in my last email
that the Vic committee
did not just rely on one suspected incident of cheating? From memory there were
at least five, all from different tournaments. There were also multiple reports of very
poor behaviour towards other Scrabblers. In all there were twelve documents
submitted to the committee detailing such. We also followed the rules of our
constitution assiduously, as well as observing common decency. No-one wants to
ban a Scrabble player - we all just want to play Scrabble. Hence we took our
job very seriously. And hence I, for one, am not taking your casual utterances
lightly! Trevor
RE:
[ozscrabble] Lost Basics
Saturday, 1
October, 2011 6:07 AM
From:
"Trevor Halsall"
To:"Harry
Malcolm" , "Scrabble List"
Oh Harry. He
wasn't found guilty of cheating, he was found "guilty of a conduct unbecoming a member"
(section 10.1). There were twelve separate documented submissions, not just the
one that Mohammed chose to take to the AGM. (And, by the way, in that
particular case, it is disputed that there were any others watching at the
time.) The 67% threshold that you quote is for appeals made within 48 hours of
banning someone - not for the selected one-out-of-twelve-submissions that was
taken years later to the recent AGM. And as if I'm going to take into account
some accusation that was made against Marj??! I won't be commenting further on
this topic on this list. I hope I have done enough to counter the accusations
being levelled at the Vic Committee. Here's to some happy future Scrabbling,
Trevor PS Some real Scrabble input: I have just spent two days staying in
Moustiers, a small town in southern France known as the centre of the technique
of FAIENCE (aka FAYENCE).
ozscrabble]
Re: Lost Basics - Clarification
Wednesday, 5
October, 2011 12:46 AM
From:
"Trevor Halsall"
To:"Scrabble
List"
At risk of being thrown off this list (as
well as prolonging this topic for everyone), I should quickly correct two
things that I misremembered. I wrote: "...the Vic committee did not just
rely on one suspected incident of cheating? From memory there were at least
five, all from different tournaments." In fact, when I look back, there
were two separate incidents that related to Mohammed infracting the rules, not
five. One (hiding a tile) had only one witness. The other (claiming oppo went an
extra minute over time, to win a game) was not suspected, it was proven; and
accepted by Mohammed.
Trevor
Trevor
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My Comment:
The
misunderstanding of adding an extra minute was accepted by me and resolved in a
few seconds at the tournament, not at an enquiry. An extra minute would not
have won me the game as it finished 374/388. Do you get the same impression
reading the lies above?
The threat of
Trevor being thrown off the list never existed. It was actually applied only to
me by Bob Jackman and his apprentice.
A Short Story from the Camberwell Club
28/10/2011
I cannot
remember where I first met X. Most likely, it would have been at the Mount
Waverley Club, one or two years ago. He told me that he lived in Queensland and was in Melbourne for a few days staying with his
son. I played him and found that he had good scrabble skills. So, I invited him
for a day of scrabble at my place.
We played about
six or eight games, during which time my wife offered hospitality in the form
of quick responses to the need for periodic cups of tea and coffee, and a
hearty meal at dinner time. She is a very skilled cook. She makes me feel
punished if we were to eat at a restaurant, where I would ask her to pick from
the menu, what she might think I would like to eat.
I have not seen
or heard about X until a third party, who I have no reason to doubt, told me
that on Saturday 15/10/2011 at the Camberwell Club, X said something like the
following:
“Oh, that
Mohammed, he is a cheat and if he would be writing the scores, he is more
likely to subtract your score than add it! I have been to his place; he treats
his wife like a slave.”
What should I
say? Maybe he didn’t like the chicken schnitzels. Mathematicians who might want
to solve for x can click on the Link , push ctrl+f and type hn space r.
There you are, the solution would be highlighted.
Hegazi vs ASPA (Vic) Part 1
09/11/2011
This message
dated 05/10/2011 is forwarded to the Committee and membership of the Australian
Scrabble Players Association (Vic) Inc.
The Committee
of the said Association, of which I am a financial member, is in breach of the
Associations Incorporation Act 1981.
Unless within
28 days from the date herein I receive an unconditional and unequivocal written
apology from the said Committee, I would file a complaint with the Melbourne Magistrates’
Court that would refer to the following:
1. the lack of
adequate grievance procedures in the Association’s constitution as stipulated
by Section 14B of the said Act;
2. oppressive
conduct as per Section 14C;
3. a court
order that the Committee issues a formal apology in relation to cheating
allegations, to be made public to members attending the next AGM;
4. the
Association to pay adequate compensation;
5. the
Association to pay legal cost.
While the legal
path is in my favour, it is much more important to me to demonstrate to the
membership that the moral aspect would have changed the outcome of the gracious
motion moved by Harry Malcolm on behalf of Tess Robinson at the 2011 AGM. A
logically correct outcome of the motion would have put this matter to rest.
However, the pre-calculated insult of a secret ballot had lead to an illegal
precedent, due to the fact that members were hoodwinked by the Committee via
embellished trivia and hearsay misinformation.
The history of
the Committee’s bungling from one error to another is shown below, for the
benefit of only the principled members who would like to know the bare facts.
My accusations
of the Vic Committee as to repetitive bungling would be understood if related
in a documented manner. The sequence of events is very important, because it
did pull the leg of the Committee into making errors that had to be covered by
more errors.
The beginning was an email from Carol Johnsen:
To Mohammed Hegazi
c. c.
Stephanie Saunders
Norma Fisher
Marj Miller
Ruth fewings
Dear Mohammed,
I am writing to you, firstly in my capacity as the Mornington Tournament Director, and secondly, as a member of the Victorian committee.
At the Mornington tournament, it was of concern to me that I was called over to a game where you had facetiously declared a score of 200 for a play which clearly did not total that amount. I consider that this ploy was done in an insolent and ill-mannered manner by you to upset your opponent, which it certainly did. I have now observed from your blog that you had deliberately intended to enact this deceptive and time-wasting ploy which is even more distressing to me and, as it was, to your opponent.
I am writing to you now because, at our regular Victorian committee meeting held late last week, it came to my notice that there had already been a warning issued to you by the Tournament Director Barry Harridge with regard to your inappropriate behaviour towards an opponent at the recent Victorian Championships.
Following that also, at the Gwen Chadwick Memorial tournament last Sunday, you managed to upset one of our longest-playing and highly-respected players; which not only distressed her but those who witnessed it happening.
The above is why I now believe it prudent to send this email to the committee and give notice that I will be moving a motion that the committee take out disciplinary action against you for what appears to be your continuing unacceptable behaviour.
Whilst you have general concerns with the rules of the game, which you can address in writing to Trevor Halsall, the Victorian representative on the Rules Committee, you appear to constantly upset innocent opponents at tournaments with unacceptable comments and, as in the case at the Mornington Tournament, ill-mannered tactics.
Your faithfully,
Carol Johnsen
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As you would have noticed, Carol Johnsen made the following mistakes:
- She used rude language. She could have related what, in her opinion, constituted ill manners without expressing such ill-conceived subjective feelings.
- She circulated such sensitive defaming document among other members of the Association, namely RF and SS.
- She issued what would constitute a reprimand, even though she expressed her intention to pass the matter on to the Committee for further action. Her act was unconstitutional. Disciplinary action, if any, must be taken by the Committee after adequate investigation.
In view of the above, I sent an email to Marj Miller, the then elected president of the Association, requesting an enquiry and proper application of disciplinary procedures, should the need arise.
Because my email to MM exposed the action of CJ, it simply disappeared from the documentation and did not rate a mention in the enquiry that followed. MM made it look as if disciplinary procedures were invoked solely by her and not at my own behest. Instead, she indulged in running around in haste, requesting complaints against me from fellow players. Most would have refused to take part in this ploy. She managed to compile a dossier of trivia, plus a couple of unlucky incidents that were worthy of further investigation, and were properly addressed by me in the enquiry that followed. Had those two incidents been discussed with me in a reasonable friendly manner at an early stage, that would have been the end of the matter.
Contrary to Trevor Halsall’s waffle from the memory, the documented 10 accusations forwarded to me and later discussed in the inquiry, together with two extra pieces of similar nonsense, do not include any real incidents of cheating. Here is an exact copy of them, with all typos and poor punctuation if any, as forwarded to me by registered mail:
1) Date of Incident: July 13 2005
REPORT OF ACCUSATION OF CHEATING at the N4 Tournament.
During a break between games at the above tournament Mohammed Hegazi mentioned to me that he was concerned about cheating by fellow scrabble players.
We moved to a quiet area to discuss this, at which stage I asked Mohammed to tell me the names of the people who were cheating, mentioning that in my capacity as President of the Scrabble Players Association I would be unable to do anything about dealing with this situation without knowing the names of the offenders.
Mohammed was at first reluctant to mention any names, but when pressed again said “well, you for a start”.
I was distressed by this totally untrue accusation and let the members of the Association know that I had been accused of cheating, and I am grateful for the enormous amount of support I have received over the ensuing period of time.
Marj Miller
President
Scrabble Players Assocation
________________________________________________
2) Date of Incident: March 22 2008
Account of what happened at the Nationals with Mohammed Hegazi
On the 22nd March 2008 at the National Championships I was drawn to play Mohammed Hegazi in the second game of the Plate Section.
We arrived at the table to commence play and Mohammed started by telling me how to hold the bag and how to draw my tiles, I assured him I knew how to do this, we started to play he then said the last time he played me I held the bag incorrectly and I could see the tiles ( I interpreted this as an accusation of Cheating) at this point I stopped the clock and called for the TD. Barry Harridge came to the table and asked what the problem was. I explained what Mohammed had said. BH asked me to demonstrate how I drew tiles, I held the bag as I always do above the table, averted my eyes and drew my tiles placing each one on my score sheet face down until I had the correct number of tiles, only then did I look at them and place them on my rack. BH advised Mohammed that there was nothing wrong with the way I drew tiles and directed him to proceed with the game. We completed the game in a very uncomfortable atmosphere.
I was humiliated at being asked to demonstrate how I selected tiles by the TD. I was very upset by this whole incident.
I am not a Cheat.
Dorothy Barraclough
________________________________________________
3) Date of Incident: May 12 2008
Marj
On 12 May at the XB tournament, I was disturbed to notice a player cheating with tiles in one of the rated games.
John Mina was playing Mohammed Hegazi, and I was seated beside Mohammed. My game had finished so I was watching play on their board, when Mohammed made a move leaving 2 tiles on his rack. JM took a fairly long time to respond, and while he was doing so Mohammed slipped one of his tiles onto his chair, under his leg. That enabled him to go out on the last move.
He won the game, but he was far enough ahead to win anyway, unless JM went out with a bingo.
I was uncomfortable about saying anything at the time, aware of etiquette in not commenting on other competitors’ plays at rated tournaments, but I was distressed to see it, given the frequency with which Mohammed accuses other players of cheating.
Perhaps I should have reported this earlier. I apologise for not doing so.
Katie Rowe
________________________________________________
4} Date of Incident: June 9 2008
Dear Marj
Here is my account of the incident at the Victorian Championship as I remember it.
Early in the game of Mohammed Hegazi vs KT in round 18, Mohammed stated his intention to concede the game and not proceed with it. I came over to see what was going on. I asked Mohammed why he wanted to stop, and he gave no reason, saying he just wanted to concede. When I persisted, he said that in the course of replenishing tiles from her rack, KT had selected too many tiles, returning some further tiles from her rack. I found nothing to suggest that KT had done such a thing. KT did not understand what Mohammed was alleging. The game was stopped. It was treated as an unrated game with a forfeit by Mohammed and an imputed win to KT with a nominal spread of +1. KT was very upset. I warned Mohammed that any further incident would result in disciplinary action.
Mohammed’s baseless allegation in this case is yet another in a string of cases which is upsetting to players and disruptive to the smooth running of tournaments.
Barry Harridge
________________________________________________
5) Date of Incident: June 9 2008
Dear Marj
Have thought a bit about this - but really isn’t is possible to do something about Mahommed. At each tournament, seemingly, he upsets a woman so badly that she spends the day and much of the evening as well in tears and shaken. Yesterday again and KJ is such a good natured and helpful person. Please Marj perhaps I’m not wording this as well as it might be, but the man is a menace. You have mentioned a few times that the numbers for the tournaments has dropped could it be the tension that is felt because of his behaviour not to mention Doug has caused this drop.
Tell me to mind my own business if you will - but come to think of it it is my business - it’s my day out too - and to watch people, one at each tournament at least, becoming so upset is very distressing.
________________________________________________
6) Date of Incident: August 17 2008
Dear Madam President,
I was so upset by the rude and unsportsmanlike behaviour of Mohammed Hegazi at the Memorial Tournament last Sunday, that I have decided not to attend any more tournaments in Melbourne, except for the Senior Citizens Challenge in October.
Yours sincerely,
Ruth Fewings
________________________________________________
7) Date of Incident: August 17 2008
To Scrabble Committee
18th August 2008
Dear Committee members,
I wish to complain about the bad behavior of Mohammed Hegazi at yesterdays Memorial Tournament.
Yesterday I witnessed yet another of our members (a most senior one at that) Ruth Fewings be subjected to his awful behavior. Bridget Halge and I were so upset and concerned for RF we had to stop our clock to regain composure for our game.
I personally have been in this position with Mohammed (At the Nationals) and it is very unpleasant to say the least.
Dorothy Barraclough
Membership Officer
(Continued overpage)
7) contd. MY OBSERVATIONS OF WHAT HAPPENED
Mohammed was late for the start of the game, Marj came and started the clock, at this stage I was unaware who Ruth Fewings’s opponent was.
When Mohammed arrived at the table to find his clock had been started he threw something on the table and told RF it was her game and walked off.
Marj came and eventually got them to start play. Mohammed wanted to start Ruth’s clock before she has selected her tiles and she objected causing more distress. Bridget Halge and l were very distressed and upset for RF at being subjected to this behavior, we stopped our Clock for some time to regain our composure. When we recommenced our game the unpleasantness went on, we stopped our Clock again and I informed Marj that Mohammed was still giving RF a hard time. Barry Harridge sat and observed the latter stages of the game between RF and Mohammed, with no further incident I believe.
Barry H sat with RF for quite some time afterwards consoling her, she was just so upset.
________________________________________________
8) Date of Incident: August 17 2008
Dear Marj,
I’m writing to express my frustration at the joy having been taken out yet again, of my enjoyment of a scrabble tournament when I witnessed Ruth Fewings' distress while she was playing a game against Mohammed Hegazi. It was evident that a confrontation had taken place. My partner and I had to stop the clock so we could compose ourselves before we continued with our game.
The reason I was so badly affected by what happened to Ruth Fewings was that my experiences of playing against Mohammed have been nerve racking and filled with anxiety. I experience his behaviour as hostile and intimidating which results in my inability to play my best. Each time I see his name listed as a participant in a tounament, my heart sinks because I dread the prospect of having to play against him.
I ask that the committee seeks to redress this situation through whatever means that are open to you. Regards, Bridger Halge
________________________________________________
9) Date of Incident: August 10 2008
Hi Marj
As far as I can remember it went like this
Mohammed placed a 7 letter word on the board over the triple score on the right hand border
He announced ‘200’
As he had played this game with me at a previous tournament I said to him ‘come on now you’re not doing this to me again’ and called Carol Johnsen over to adjudicate
What it was was that his time was running out - he was playing for time or some such
________________________________________________
10) Date of Incident/s: August 10 & 17th 2008
To Mohammed Hegazi
c. c.
Stephanie Saunders
Norma Fisher
Marj Miller
Ruth fewings
Dear Mohammed,
I am writing to you, firstly in my capacity as the Mornington Tournament Director, and secondly, as a member of the Victorian committee.
At the Mornington tournament, it was of concern to me that I was called over to a game where you had facetiously declared a score of 200 for a play which clearly did not total that amount. I consider that this ploy was done in an insolent and ill-mannered manner by you to upset your opponent, which it certainly did. I have now observed from your blog that you had deliberately intended to enact this deceptive and time-wasting ploy which is even more distressing to me and, as it was, to your opponent.
I am writing to you now because, at our regular Victorian committee meeting held late last week, it came to my notice that there had already been a warning issued to you by the Tournament Director Barry Harridge with regard to your inappropriate behaviour towards an opponent at the recent Victorian Championships.
Following that also, at the Gwen Chadwick Memorial tournament last Sunday, you managed to upset one of our longest-playing and highly-respected players; which not only distressed her but those who witnessed it happening.
The above is why I now believe it prudent to send this email to the committee and give notice that I will be moving a motion that the committee take out disciplinary action against you for what appears to be your continuing unacceptable behaviour.
Whilst you have general concerns with the rules of the game, which you can address in writing to Trevor Halsall, the Victorian representative on the Rules Committee, you appear to constantly upset innocent opponents at tournaments with unacceptable comments and, as in the case at the Mornington Tournament, ill-mannered tactics.
Your faithfully,
Carol Johnsen
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For the purpose of accuracy, two more “incidents” miraculously cropped up after sending me the registered mail letter. They were handed on to me on the day of the enquiry. One was related to my “bad behaviour”, the other was related to a dispute over how to calculate extra time on the clock, which was resolved in a few seconds during the tournament, but is scored on Trevor Halsall’s abacus as a second attempt at cheating, to be added to Katie Rowe’s ridiculous claim. I would like Trevor Halsall to tell us how 1+1 is equal to or greater than 5 on his abacus:
Hi Harry. Sounds like you're on a bit of a crusade here. Did you read in my last email that the Vic committee did not just rely on one suspected incident of cheating? From memory there were at least five, all from different tournaments. There were also multiple reports of very poor behaviour towards other Scrabblers. In all there were twelve documents submitted to the committee detailing such. We also followed the rules of our constitution assiduously, as well as observing common decency. No-one wants to ban a Scrabble player - we all just want to play Scrabble. Hence we took our job very seriously. And hence I, for one, am not taking your casual utterances lightly! Trevor
To: ozscrabble@yahoogroups.com
___________________________________________________________
All of the above took place in 2008. In 2011, the following motion was considered at the AGM of Scrabble Victoria:
3. MOTION: Members of ASPA(Vic) hereby extend an apology to ASPA (Vic) member Mohammed Hegazi, in relation to an unsubstantiated claim of cheating made against him.
The claim of cheating is attached herewith as “addendum (1) to motion”; a statement by Mohammed Hegai is attached as “addendum (2) to motion”
Moved: Tess Robinson
Seconded: Geoff Wright
Addendum (1) to motion:
On 12 May at the XB tournament, I was disturbed to notice a player cheating with the tiles in one of the rated games.
John Mina was playing Mohammed Hegazi, and I was seated beside Mohammed. My game had finished so I was watching play on their board, when Mohammed made a move leaving 2 tiles on his rack. JM took a fairly long time to respond, and while he was doing so Mohammed slipped one of his tiles onto his chair, under his leg. That enabled him to go out on the last move.
He won the game, but he was far enough ahead to win anyway, unless JM went out with a bingo.
I was uncomfortable about saying anything at the time, aware of etiquette in not commenting on other competitors’ plays at rated tournaments, but I was distressed to see it, given the frequency with which Mohammed accuses other players of cheating.
Perhaps I should have reported this earlier. I apologise for not doing so.
Signed: Katie Rowe
Addendum (2) to motion
Statement by Mohammed Hegazi
I make reference to an allegation of cheating made against me by Ms Katie Rowe. She was watching the game in question together with the TD, Geoff Wright, until the very end of the game. They were exchanging whispering comments about the game. Ms Rowe claims that etiquette prevented her from reporting the alleged incident to the TD at the time, yet she saw fit to report it in writing to Mrs Marj Miller, 5 months after the tournament. Mrs Miller in turn saw fit to table such unsubstantiated claim for discussion with me in a Committee meeting.
If Ms Rowe’s story had any shade of truth in it, she should have alerted the TD to the incident at the time. The TD would have ascertained the validity of her claim.
Mohammed Hegazi
____________________________________________
Presiding over
the meeting, Carol Johnsen insisted on a secret ballot. I objected and offered
to have a walk away from the meeting while the issue would be decided by a show
of hands. My offer was turned down by Carol Johnsen.
This is the Full story from A to Y. The Z part would be decided in one of two ways:
This is the Full story from A to Y. The Z part would be decided in one of two ways:
(a) an
unconditional and unequivocal apology by the Committee;
(b) a decision
by the Melbourne
Magistrates Court.
Finally, a word
of advice and warning to the Committee:
(a) dismissing
me now, using your hackneyed cliché of “putting the Association to disrepute”,
does not impede legal action. It would make the case weaker for you.
(b) wasting the
Association’s funds on litigation is unethical. Members of the Committee should
use their own personal funds for initial legal advice, since the sole aim would
be to bolster their own egos.
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Hegazi vs ASPA (Vic) Part 2
09/11/2011
Dear ASPA member
Since I do not operate in the dark, it
becomes incumbent on me to continue to inform you about the developments of
this serious case. Any ASPA member could face intimidation by a regional
committee of ASPA. In theory, being on a committee of any non-profit
association is more of a burden, to be carried by dedicated people who are
willing to spend time and effort for the sake of the welfare of other members.
In reality, some associations become plagued with committee members, especially
presidents, who are autocratic power-hungry freaks. Such persons believe that
they can control others and in the process, they tend to contravene common law.
If you are not familiar with this case, here
is a summary of it:
In 2008, the committee of ASPA (VIC)
invited, sought and collated a dossier of trivia, in the form of 12 so-called
submissions against me, detailing laughable flimsy accusations, inclusive of a
couple of absurd-makeshift-dated-hearsay accusations of cheating. The obvious
aim was to sully my reputation as a fair scrabble player. An enquiry by that
committee, where many of its members doubled as adversaries, unanimously
decided to ban me from playing in Victorian tournaments for one year. ASPA (WA)
offered support for ASPA (VIC) by banning me from playing in WA for the
remainder of my natural life. (Forget about the fact that I never played nor
intended to play in WA).
On 5 October 2011, I requested ASPA (VIC) to
either forward to me within 28 days a written apology or to face legal action,
since they committed serious errors in law. Since that date, the following
cut-and-paste correspondence took place:
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On 31 October 2011 17:59, carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Mohammed,
Further to your email of 5 October 2011 I am
writing on behalf of the ASPA (Vic) Inc Committee.
In your email you detail your concerns
regarding the process adopted by the Committee in 2008 in respect of various
complaints relating to your conduct. This process ultimately led, on 18
September 2008, to a decision by the Committee that you were guilty of conduct
unbecoming a member and you were suspended from attending or participating in
all ASPA (Vic) Inc tournaments for 1 year commencing on 1 November 2008.
In your email you also note that unless the
Committee responds with an unconditional and unequivocal written apology within
28 days of your email, you intend to initiate legal action under the
Associations Incorporation Act 1981 (the Act), specifically in relation to
alleged contraventions (by the Committee) of sections 14B and 14C of that Act.
As you can appreciate the Committee takes such
threats very seriously.
In the interests of preserving the limited
funds of our Association we have not sought legal advice in relation to your
email. However, the Committee has had the opportunity to consider the grounds
on which you have stated that you wish to take legal action as well as the
relevance of the provisions to ASPA (Vic), our constitution, and the particular
circumstances of your case.
We have noted below our common understanding
of the requirements of section 14B and 14C of the Act and our collective belief
that the Committee has not acted in contravention of either of these
provisions. As noted above, these conclusions are not based on legal advice but
are a genuine attempt by the Committee to consider, and ensure that we have
operated in accordance with, the relevant Associations legislation.
SECTION 14B
In essence section 14B of the Act requires
that:
· the rules of an incorporated association
must set out a grievance procedure for dealing with any dispute under the rules
between a member and another member or a member and the incorporated
association.
· the grievance procedure must allow for
natural justice to be applied.
We consider that each of these requirements
has been met by ASPA (Vic).
Specifically:
· ASPA (Vic) has a grievance procedure (refer
section 11 of the Constitution and Statement of Purposes for the Australian
Scrabble Players Association (Vic) Inc (the Constitution))
· this grievance procedure is consistent with
the grievance procedures detailed in the model rules for incorporated
associations published by Consumer Affairs Victoria
· the grievance procedure was followed in
relation to your case.
Specifically:
– the committee notified you of the complaints
regarding your conduct on 1 September 2008, and provided you with an
opportunity to address the substance of the complaints;
– the Committee held a Special Committee
meeting on 18 September 2008 which you attended along with a support person
(your son);
– during this meeting you were provided the
opportunity to address the Committee’s concerns, which you did;
– following due consideration of all relevant
matters, the Committee passed a resolution that: “In accordance with Rule 10.1
of the ASPA (Vic) Inc Constitution, we find that Mohammed Hegazi has neglected
to comply with these rules and is guilty of conduct unbecoming a member and
prejudicial to the interests of the Association, and that he be suspended from
attending or participating in all ASPA (Vic) Inc. tournaments for 1 year
commencing Saturday November 1st, 2008.”;
– In accordance with our Constitution, a
further Special Committee Meeting (to which you were invited (by letter on 22
September 2008), but did not attend, nor make any submission) was held on
October 16, 2008 to ratify the above resolution. It was passed unanimously; and
– on 18 October 2008 the Committee formally
notified you in writing of the Committee’s findings and also detailed your
right of appeal (as provided for in our Constitution).We also note that the
grievance procedure provides the opportunity for you to seek appeal of any
decision by the committee, and that you chose not to exercise this right. We
note that it is now almost 3 years since the decision of the Committee was made
in relation to your case.
SECTION 14C
Further, we are uncertain of the particular
cause of action you would have in respect of section 14C.
Oppressive conduct is defined in the section
and includes conduct that is unfairly prejudicial to, or unfairly
discriminatory against, a member of the incorporated association or contrary to
the interests of the members of the incorporated association as a whole.
We note that this section was introduced into
the Act after the decision of the Committee regarding your conduct.
While we do not therefore consider that there
is a cause of action under this section in relation to conduct in 2008, we
equally do not consider that the Committee has engaged in any conduct which was
unfairly prejudicial or discriminatory in relation to you or any other member.
As noted previously our intention has simply been to respond, in accordance
with the rules of our Association, to a number of complaints that were made to
ASPA (Vic) regarding your conduct
Of course if you wish to take legal action
this is entirely a matter for you. ASPA (Vic) will then seek legal advice to
enable the Association to respond properly on behalf of all of our members.
We invite you to discuss your issues in a
meeting with 2 members of the Committee at the Box Hill Senior Citizens Centre
or, if you wish, the matter can be progressed to mediation at the Department of
Justice.
In the meantime we urge you to reconsider your
position and look forward to rebuilding a positive relationship between you and
the Association. We also note that you may have some suggestions for ways in
which the ASPA (Vic) rules may be enhanced, and we would be pleased for you to
raise these through the usual channels.
As you can appreciate, with your legal action
potentially pending, the Committee must ensure, on behalf of all Victorian
Scrabble players, that it does not inadvertently prejudice the legal position
of the Association. I have therefore requested that Committee members refrain
from emailing or communicating with you informally (and in their individual
capacity) on this particular matter.
Yours faithfully,
CAROL JOHNSEN
President
ASPA (Vic) Inc
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Mohammed A.
Hegazi <mohammedhegazi@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Carol,
Your own interpretation of sections 14B and
14C is a flawed attempt at self justification. A basic principle of common law
is that you cannot act as judge in a dispute of which you are a party. This
applied to yourself, Marj Miller, Barry Harridge, and Dorothy Barraclough. In a
court of law, the findings of the 2008 Committee, as to my alleged poor
conduct, would be deemed null and void. Let alone the fact that the embellished
trivia in the twelve so-called submissions, and the subsequent ruling that I
was found "guilty of a conduct unbecoming a member", would invoke the
wrath of any magistrate.
I will accept your offer with regard to a
meeting with two committee members, on condition that such members are
impartial with no vested interest in the outcome of the meeting. This can be
achieved if the two members were not on the 2008 committee, or members who made
false allegations against me. The following four committee members, in
alphabetical order, would satisfy this condition:
Jenny Brysha
Dianne Gibson
Cheryle Jerram
Sandra Masel
Otherwise, we may progress directly to
mediation at the Department of Justice. There, a legal practitioner would
highlight to the committee all the errors committed in 2008 and 2011. You may
then weigh the risks of a court case and opt for my requested unconditional and
unequivocal written apology, at no cost to the Association.
I would still urge you to seek proper legal advice.
An initial legal consultation would be much cheaper than hiring a hall for the
proposed meeting. Please rest assured that the welfare of the Association is
uppermost on my mind. Any future financial loss incurred would be due to
mismanagement.
Yours truly,
Mohammed Hegazi
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On 2 November 2011 21:13, carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Mohammed,
The members of the committee have considered
that the conditions under which you would want a grievance meeting, i.e.,
involved committee members, is not agreeable to us.
In the circumstances, we suggest that, if you
so wish, you may progress your grievance to a mediation with the Department of
Justice.
Yours faithfully,
CAROL JOHNSEN
President, ASPA (Vic)
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Mohammed A.
Hegazi <mohammedhegazi@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Carol,
I am of the opinion that mediation is more
suited to efforts exerted by our colleague Mr Harry Malcolm, for the purpose of
reforming the constitution, in order to bring ASPA (Vic) in line with modern
non-profit associations, and to curtail the harmful autocratic manner of
running it. However, I will join the effort of Mr Malcolm, rather than initiate
a duplicate mediation track.
As to my specific grievance, I regret to
advise that you have blocked every possible avenue for reconciliation I have
tried to open. You also refused to take my advice and seek proper initial legal
consultation. Although I believe that only a court ruling would convince you
that you have erred, I will await the outcome of mediation before taking legal
action. Please confirm that the postal address of the Association for the
purpose of process service remains:
The Secretary
Australian Scrabble Players Association
25
Alfred St
Templestowe Lower 3107
Yours truly,
Mohammed Hegazi
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From: carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>
To: Mohammed A. Hegazi <mohammedhegazi@gmail.com>
Cc: andrew fisher <aphis99@yahoo.com>;
carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>;
Cheryle Jerram <cheryle.jerram@bigpond.com>;
dianne gibson <diannebgibson@gmail.com>;
Jenny Brysha <jennybrysha@gmail.com>;
katie rowe <iratekow@bigpond.com>;
marjorie miller <mjwm@connexus.net.au>;
Norma Fisher <Noray2@optusnet.com.au>;
sandra masel <masel@netspace.net.au>;
Trevor Halsall <trevor_halsall@hotmail.com>;
Trevor Halsall <trevor_halsall@medibank.com.au>;
harry malcolm <hmalc@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2011 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Reply to your email of 5.10.11.
Dear Mohammed,
The contact address, as advertised on the
national website, is The Secretary, ASPA (Vic) Inc, c/- 25 Alfred Street, Templestowe Lower,
3107. (Marj Miller is not the Secretary. Marj maintains the enquiry centre and
is the Ratings Officer on the committee).
Regards, Carol
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From: harry malcolm <hmalc@yahoo.com>
To: carol johnsen <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>,
Mohammed A. Hegazi <mohammedhegazi@gmail.com>,
andrew fisher <aphis99@yahoo.com>,
Cheryle Jerram <cheryle.jerram@bigpond.com>;
dianne gibson <diannebgibson@gmail.com>;
Jenny Brysha <jennybrysha@gmail.com>;
katie rowe <iratekow@bigpond.com>;
marjorie miller <mjwm@connexus.net.au>;
Norma Fisher <Noray2@optusnet.com.au>;
sandra masel <masel@netspace.net.au>;
Trevor Halsall <trevor_halsall@hotmail.com>
5 Nov 2011
Hello Carol and Committee
The correspondence you forwarded from
Mohammed makes it all the more imperative that all 10 members of the committee
have a full understanding of the issues, their foundations and their
implications.
I will need 10-20 minutes to specifically go
through (1) the cheating allegation in particular, (2) the 12 allegations
together and finally (3) why events since exercising my right to raise a
grievance in fact evidence my grievance.
I do not have confidence that the matters
will be enlightened upon by second hand relay from the defendants.
I have also therefore have decided to ask
Mohammed to accompany me at the committee meeting.
At some stage the committee has to be a
group exercising decisions, not just one or two refusing to take legal advice
and causing the matter to blow out of proportion.
Neither Mohammed or I want to take legal
action but in the face of refusal to discuss as a committee and refusal to take
your own legal advice, you will leave us no option.
If the committee is delegating you to act
for them, so be it, but I believe they would reasonably rather be informed and
articulate on the matter, than possibly face at some stage explaining why they
chose not to be, or why persons not involved in the matter were not drawn from
the committee to handle the matter.
As I say, the issue is on the table only, it
is not personal, I have been passive and procedural and that is how we should
all act.
thank you
Harry Malcolm
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Re Committee meeting Nov 10 2011
Monday, 7 November,
2011 7:13 AM
From: "Harry
Malcolm" <hmalc@yahoo.com>
To: "carol johnsen" <caroljscrabble@gmail.com>,
"Mohammed A. Hegazi" <mohammedhegazi@gmail.com>
Cc: "andrew fisher" <aphis99@yahoo.com>,
"Cheryle Jerram" <cheryle.jerram@bigpond.com>,
"dianne gibson" <diannebgibson@gmail.com>,
"Jenny Brysha" <jennybrysha@gmail.com>,
"katie rowe" <iratekow@bigpond.com>,
"marjorie miller" <mjwm@connexus.net.au>,
"Norma Fisher" <Noray2@optusnet.com.au>,
"sandra masel" <masel@netspace.net.au>,
"Trevor Halsall" <trevor_halsall@hotmail.com>...
The issues pre Nov10 2011
Mohammed joined scrabble competitions and
had an immediate genuine and worthy concern about cheating in the way tile bag
rule was not being observed.
Mohammed was NOT given reasonable support by
direction to TDs to remind players as they were lapsing on this rule, and was
left to enforce proper use by fair complaint.
Mohammed kept a public blog on how rule
breaking was happening.
He was reluctant to name names and only did
so under pressure.
When he named President Marj Miller, his
concern was not taken seriously and he was subject to an improper campaign of
privacy breach and vilification.
The full blown elements of bullying took
over with Mohammed reduced to singleton status, not taken seriously, the butt
of sneer, and as a person with no redeeming features.
Mohammed was suspended on the basis of
numbers of allegations, NOT on substantiated claims which natural justice
(procedural fairness) behoves the Committee to make.
Some of the allegations start with "my
account" suggesting they have been asked for.
Most of the allegations don't have an
allegation of an action by Mohammed in them.
Any allegations made were biased, short of
relevant information, poorly handled and came down to trivia dealt with
routinely with other players in the past.
It is not acceptable for Carol to make
emotional , summative, opinionated and embellished remarks on a factual matter,
to then justify that she is going to run an investigation, and then lead
judgement on her own action.
The actions of the committee were naive,
uninformed, oppressive and judgements made by first hand associates of the
complainants.
The process available for Mohammed to appeal
was unreasonable and unworkable.
The bullying has run onto Harry who has
lodged a grievance that such a process, in defiance of natural justice, has
happened in an organisation his children could be playing in within a few
years.
This flow on evidences the very concern of
Harry's grievance.
The committee provides no reasonable manner
by which a Victorian player is allowed share their concerns with other
Victorian members.
The outcome expected is that ASPA Vic
will repeal the matters raised above, and will get their rules and information
up to date within the expectation of model organisations and corporations.
NB Correspondence with Michael Tang, who
suspended a player based on collective notifications and then his own direct
observance of the alleged cheating, showed the issue of how the bag is used is
paramount to disabling cheats.
1) The Katie Rowe allegation.
Katie was asked to make a written complaint
5 months afterwards where she had not wanted to.
She had no admissible evidence that Mohammed
cheated or had reason to cheat or details.
The opportunities to collect admissible
evidence were not taken at the time.
No player would reasonably expect a dated
hearsay allegation to be upheld.
There were numerous ways a mistake could
have been made in thinking a tile had been moved.
2) The time clock matter
Mohammed was an inexperienced player
There are several models of time clocks.
Time clocks rarely run into over time.
The clocks going over time are not
immediately obvious in their display.
There is no evidence that Mohammed did
anything but misunderstand the clock.
Once he understood he was compliant.
3) The calling of a wrong score
Previous occurrence of this have been
handled as silly, which it is.
Calling out a wrong score is not listed as
cheating in any ASPA organisation.
Suggestions by Carol that suspensions were
linked to this occurring before are denied by the person named who says he was
never suspended from playing. Therefore documents need to be produced for the
Committee. (Carol also asserted Marj did not speak against Mohammed's motion)
The committee has not concerned itself with
consistency of penalties.
An Australian WSC player who cheated at the
highest level by dropping a tile into a coffee cup in an close Australian
Championship game was only penalised "put the tile back on the rack and
lose a turn"
An appropriate penalty for a silly
deliberate blatant wrong score call, which might achieve a few seconds of clock
time, would at worst be to add two minutes to the offenders clock.
In summary there is no evidence that
Mohammed has ever cheated, and the allegations collapse under audit to
substantiating nothing other than hostility towards him existed.
Accounts of TD adjudication appear that on
reflection matters could have been handled better and reported better.
I am ashamed of the reckless actions against
fellow member Mohammed, whom I point out I have no other prior affiliation
with. It’s shameful that while we play near his home at Box Hill he has to go
interstate to find a welcoming group of players.
The Committee has shown no concept of the
mental anguish and grief false allegations "substantiated on hearsay"
cause on a person. Reasonable support measures were not put in place including
a support person once he faced allegations.
Trevor Halsall has let the defaming
impression that Mohammed is a cheat circle the world without withdrawal or
apology, and attacked me by email. He must stand down from the Committee.
50% of players outside of the committee were
not prepared to vote to uphold the committee's decision, even where players
were barrelled on the day with spite about Mohammed with no bearing on the
matter of the motion. This also violated his privacy but has now fortunately
led to the whole baseless decision being exposed.
I would say to committee members that I was
looking for preparedness to put the issue on the table and neutrally review it.
I do not think Carol's absence should delay any mediation under the Dept of
Justice so I would therefore advise the Committee members to be ready and each
apprise themselves of the facts.
I believe the Committee should be
represented by its members who are NOT involved with making allegations, and
will be putting this to the Dept of Justice if we go to that step. I think the
failure of the Committee to take one session of legal advice will be poorly
regarded.
I see it is relatively simple to concede that
despite best intentions the matter was not handled within natural justice
requirements, and that the decision is repealed and other states will be
notified. Further, clear rules and requirements related to cheating and other
allegations will be put in place asap.
I would then think an apology in ATB would
be appropriate and welcoming his return to play, though I think many many
players would like more information.
Then suddenly, the matter will be over and
one step back two steps forwards towards being a model organisation.
Harry Malcolm
I have produced this note since I am not
getting clear information on the Nov 10 committee process, where Mohammed and I
expect to be in attendance the full meeting, and that if 8 members are
choosing(?) to not know the details, this might change that view.
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This should be my last missive to ASPA
members. If you want to follow further developments, you may find them later on
my personal scrabble blog:
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Collateral Damage Hits WA
21/11/2011
(Harry Malcolm)
(Archive Photo)
Subject: Life suspension of
Mohammed Hegazi
To: "Glenys Lawrie"
Cc: "Mohammed A.
Hegazi"
Received: Tuesday, 15 November,
2011, 6:37 AM
-- On Tue, 15/11/11, Harry Malcolm wrote:
Dear Glenys
I write to you as president of the
West Australian Scrabble Committee,I understand that in 2008 or soon after,
Mohammed Hegazi who has never played in WA was suspended for life from playing
there.
This appears to follow action by
the Victorian Committee which are now being exposed as at least denial of
natural justice, and where cheating claims have collapsed and been apologised
for by Trevor Halsall.
Examination of your Constitution in
any case shows no pathway to such a decision by you and no reciprocal
arrangements with other states.
I note that Mohammed Hegazi has
continued to be a regular player elsewhere since that time. I am of the view that your continuing
ban is illegal and a denial of natural justice.
I therefore require of you:
1) The legal basis on which you
have decided you can suspend him at all, let alone for life
2) The minutes of discussion and
decision when the decision was made.
or failing that
1) advice from you that the ban is
rescinded and unreserved apologies are forwarded to Mohammed Hegazi.
It is simply a matter of fact that
justice for Mohammed will be keenly pursued, hopefully not requiring a legal
stoush.
Thank you for a prompt response
Harry Malcolm
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From: "Harry
Malcolm"
To: "Glenys
Lawrie"
Cc: "Mohammed
A. Hegazi"
27-11-11
Dear Glenys
Neither of us is aware of any
response from you and being ignored and/or delaying by you on this issue is
tantamount to bullying.
We reasonably require of you to
advise us of your response, even if it is no intention to provide the
documentation.
I have no intention of risking my
childrens' well being in an organisation where it appears they can be bullied
on a whim and hearsay.
The life suspension of a player who
has never played in your state looks absurd on the face of it, so we require of
you the documents that made such an action seem allowable to you, and the whole
and unabridged minutes of the decision forthwith.
If legal action is necessary, we
will be seeking costs, so we trust you will act with the best interests of your
Association by being open and transparent.
We would forthwith otherwise require
of you an unconditional written apology to Mohammed, unconditional repeal of
the ban, and the apology and repeal to be published on this ozscrabble list and
in the ATB.
thank you
Harry Malcolm
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From: "Harry Malcolm"
To: "Chris Hall" , "J Walker" , "Maureen"
Cc: "Mohammed A.
Hegazi" , "Glenys Lawrie"
Dear
respected Committee members ASPA WA,
I
have emailed Glenys Lawrie twice in relation to the WA 2008 life ban on
Mohammed Hegazi who has never played in WA.
1) I
have asked her for written evidence of a then existing reciprocal relationship
with Vic, and noted Vic only gave him a one year ban.
2) I
have also asked where in the WA constitution is there a pathway to action
against him ? (your Constitution below).. I am requesting a copy of the minutes
related to his being banned.
I
believe the action was illegal and must be repealed forthwith
Glenys
has failed to even acknowledge the emails so the matter will unnecessarily
widen and/or escalate, and a non response in addition to an unlawful action
fought out in the courts will bring scrabble in disrepute and unnecessary
costs. If her ignoring is deliberate, it in itself is a form of bullying.
I
appeal to you to urge Glenys to address the request directly, which should not
be a problem if she is confident of her grounds.
Please
let the other members know of this contact, I do not have their email addresses
yet.
The
point of my action is that Mohammed has already had an apology over the
unsubstantiated cheating claims at that time (2008).
I do
not want to be introducing my children to an organisation where ridiculous knee
jerk reactions can be made on hearsay between buddies.
I
understand most people find it hard to swallow their pride after acting impulsively
but much more important is that ASPA organisations are seen as model
organisations where a person cannot be discriminated against.
Thank
you for your cooperation,
Harry
Malcolm
0413
802 436
40 Blackwood Ave
Warburton
Vic 3799
CONSTITUTION
The WA State Government is currently reviewing the law covering
Incorporated organisations and how they are run. New legislation is expected to
be put before parliament before the end of the year. One key part of these
changes is the need for a new set of Rules; or Constitution; and the government
has offered a model set of rules for incorporated organisations.
The following is the current Constitution and Rules of the
Australian Scrabble Player's Association (WA) Inc., dated July 2006.
THE CONSTITUTION AND RULES OF THE
AUSTRALIAN SCRABBLE PLAYERS' ASSOCIATION (WA) INC
(1)
NAME OF THE ASSOCIATION
1.1 The name of the Association is the
Australian Scrabble Players Association (WA). It is a democratic non-profit
organisation of Scrabble players who meet regularly for the purpose of playing
social and competitive word games.
(2)
PURPOSES OF THE ASSOCIATION
2.1 To provide members with an opportunity to
meet at suitable venues.
2.2 To publish a regular newsletter and supply
information to all players wishing to know more about word games.
2.3 To encourage regular social and
competitive activities for members, to assist clubs in the organisation of
tournaments and to hold an annual State Championship.
2.4 To encourage interest and involvement of
members in activities throughout Australia and overseas.
2.5 To develop standards and ethics of play.
2.6 To encourage and assist local clubs.
2.7 To disburse the property and the income of
the Association solely towards the promotion of the purposes of the
Association.
(3)
QUALIFICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP OF THE ASSOCIATION
3.1 A person may, subject to the approval of a
general meeting and agreement to abide by the rules of Scrabble as set by the
Australian Scrabble Players Association (WA), become a member of the
Association upon payment of an annual subscription, the amount of which will be
determined at the Annual General Meeting and will become due on July 1 each
year.
(4)
EXPULSION OF MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION
4.1 The Committee may expel a member when his
or her conduct is deemed to be unbecoming or detrimental to the interests of
the Association, or to bring the Association into disrepute.
4.2 The Committee shall communicate, either
orally or in writing, to the member notice of the expulsion and the date of the
general meeting at which the expulsion was decided.
4.3 The person expelled shall be given 30 days
to appeal in writing against expulsion.
4.4 A general meeting may confirm or set aside
the decision of the general meeting to expel the member.
(5)
REGISTER OF MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION.
5.1 A Register of current financial members
will be maintained.
(6)
ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION.
6.1 An annual subscription is to be paid by
each member, the amount of which will be determined at the general meeting held
prior to the Annual General Meeting, and which will become due on 1 July of
each year.
(7)
ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF THE ASSOCIATION.
7.1 An AGM is to be held once each year.
7.2 A quorum will be at least one representative
from at least half the metropolitan clubs.
7.3 Written submissions will be requested from country
clubs to ensure their representation.
(8) COMMITTEE HAVING MANAGEMENT OF THE
ASSOCIATION
8.1 The Committee shall consist of the
delegates/representatives attending from each club.
8.2 The positions of office will be a State
Co-ordinator, President, Treasurer, Secretary, Ratings Officer and a Publicity
Officer. The State Co-ordinator will liaise with the association in other
States of Australia.
8.3 The election of persons to positions of
office will occur at the Annual General Meeting. Such persons will hold office
for one year. In the event of a vacancy, the committee may appoint a member to
fill the office.
8.4 A quorum will be at least one
representative from at least half the metropolitan clubs.
(9)
PROCEDURES OF GENERAL MEETINGS OF THE ASSOCIATION.
9.1 A minimum of four (4) general meetings
will be held each year.
9.2 Members will be advised by circular of
impending general meetings.
9.3 Minutes of meetings will be circulated to
all committee members and club representatives.
(10)
DISSOLUTION OF THE ASSOCIATION
10.1 In the
event of the dissolution of the Association the surplus funds and property will
be distributed to the Association for the Blind of Western Australia
(Incorporated).
(11)
PROPERTY AND INCOME OF THE ASSOCIATION.
11.1 The property and income of the Association
shall be applied solely towards the promotion of the objects or purposes of the
Association and no part of that property or income may be paid or otherwise
distributed, directly or indirectly, to members of the Association, except in
good faith in the promotion of those objects or purposes.
(12)
FUNDS OF THE INCORPORATED ASSOCIATION.
12.1 The funds of the Incorporated Association
are deposited with the StateWest Credit Society Limited (previously known as
API Auscom Credit Society).
12.2 Books of account will be maintained by the
Treasurer.
12.3 An Annual Financial Report will be
presented to the Annual General Meeting each year.
(13)
CUSTODY OF RECORDS AND RESOURCES OF THE ASSOCIATION.
13.1 An office bearer of the incorporated
association will be the custodian of the records, resources and equipment which
is the property of the incorporated association.
(14)
INSPECTION BY MEMBERS OF RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS.
14.1 Records and documents are presented at
each general meeting and annual general meeting for inspection by members.
(15)
AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION AND RULES
15.1 The Constitution and Rules of the Association may be amended,
added to or deleted from at a general meeting by special resolution and must be
registered in accordance with the Associations Incorporation Act
1987.
15.2 To
proceed the amendment must be voted for by 75% of the members voting at the
meeting.
Issued:
1 July 1996
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So far, I am not aware of any
response to Harry's three emails. I think that South African jewish migration
to Australia
stopped in WA and never made it to civilisation on the East Coast.
Hegazi vs ASPA(Vic) Part 3
04/02/2012
Mr Bumble was not wrong when he said that ‘the law is a ass’. His only mistake was to use the article “a” instead of “an”, but you can blame Dickens for the intended slip. The grass has become greener for the proverbial ass in Victoria. In the past, I used to file a complaint with a magistrates court whenever I faced a grievance, go to court and represent myself. More often than not I used to lose on silly technicalities. This is why I set aside a decent sum for the intended case against ASPA(Vic), in order to pay a solicitor for the margin between the actual cost and the cost awarded against my adversaries, who are set to put the game to disrepute. Some sneaky devil might alert the sport correspondents of several Melbourne tabloids to the day of the hearing.
What I am
trying to say is that there is a long delay before I can file the case. Courts
will not look at the case before it goes through a “mediation meeting” at the
“Dispute Settlement Centre of Victoria”,
which is a process by which the taxpayer pays for a team of bureaucrats, who
have no legal power whatsoever. Their job is to sit with litigants and ask them
to be nice to one another, and settle their disputes without the need to go to
court.
CJ has
already declared her intention not to amicably settle by repealing the
unfounded decisions, passed by her conniving subservient committee of 2008 and
the hoodwinked membership of 2011, that I am a person of abominable unbecoming
qualities. She is not deterred by the fact that her main actor KR has abandoned
the sinking ship. Apparently KR got sick of being hissed at by the rest of the
gang, for spilling the beans by telling others that she was asked to formally
submit, as complaint, her piece of poorly constructed fiction. CJ must still be
encouraged by TH who is adamant that the fable was ‘a case of cheating with
only one witness’, even after he apologised for inflating his figure of
imaginary cheating incidents.
What I wanted
to tell you by the above waffle is that our principled colleague Harry Malcolm
and my humble self are both ready and waiting to go through mediation; albeit
that we have different views on the matter. Harry believes that justice can be
achieved via mediation, while I believe mediation to be a superflous formality
before filing a court complaint. Someone out there is using some desperate
delaying tactic.
Panning Across the Board
08/03/2012
Across
the Board is a quarterly publication that consists of some waffly editorial and
news of scrabble activity in Australia
during the relevant quarter. The publication is not entirely devoid of
interesting news. For example, the latest issue contained these items:
KATIE ROWE – RETIRING AS MEMBERSHIP OFFICER
As you have read in the CASPA activity article in this quarter’s
ATB, Katie is returning to full-time study and she has opted to also retire as
the Victorian ASPA Membership Officer.
The Victorian committee thanks Katie for the efficient and
comprehensive effort she has put into this position for many years and for her
valuable contribution to the ASPA (Vic) committee meetings. Thank you Katie.
GWEN LAMPRE – NEW MEMBERSHIP OFFICER
And Katie has recruited Gwen Lampre to take over as our
Membership Officer. Thank you to Gwen for taking on the position and any
queries re membership can be directed to Gwen at:
gwenhl@skymesh.com.au
I was curious to find out why a person with one foot in the
grave would want to return to full-time study, and what sort of course would
this person be pursuing. So, I sifted through the publication to find out that
Ms Rowe will be studying a very demanding course in painting. So, I dismissed
the thought that she could have been contemplating nuclear physics.
There was another item that attracted my attention:
CASPA AGM and Vacant Positions:
Please see elsewhere in this issue notices regarding nominations
for all positions on the Council of Australian Scrabble Players, elections for
which will be held at the AGM to be held on Friday 6 April 2012.
You may notice
that the current CASPA Coordinator is Carol Johnsen and the Treasurer is Katie
Rowe. You may want to nominate for a position, in which case you have to apply
to Carol Johnsen by Friday 30 March (joke).
Hegazi vs ASPA(Vic) Part 4
30/03/2012
.............................................................................................M.
Hegazi
..............................................................................................5
Hiah Close
..............................................................................................Greensborough
3088
Ms. Sarah
Smith
Dispute
Settlement Centre of Victoria
GPO Box 4113
Melbourne
Vic 3001
...........................................................................March
30, 2012
....................Re:
M. Hegazi Vs ASPA(Vic)
....................Your
Ref.: A129906/2011
Dear Ms.
Smith,
I refer to
your letter dated 06/12 /2011. Your letter stated that the Secretary of the
Australian Scrabble Players Association (Vic) Inc. (ASPA) and myself were
invited to a mediation meeting, at the behest of Mr Harry Malcolm.
After making
several inquiries, it appears to me that the said meeting is not taking place,
due to the procrastination of the Secretary of ASPA (Vic).
On legal
advice, I am forwarding copies of this letter by registered mail to both Mr
Malcolm and the Secretary of ASPA (Vic).
If I do not
receive a reply to this letter, within two weeks from the date hereof, I shall
proceed with a complaint to the Melbourne Magistrates Court accompanied by an
affidavit explaining the fact that the matter was not resolved via mediation,
due to the failure of the Secretary of ASPA (Vic) to positively respond to your
mediation invitation, for an unreasonable period exceeding three months.
In the
meantime, I would like to thank you for the effort you personally have exerted
in trying to convince the Secretary of ASPA (Vic) that the issues involved
could have been resolved via mediation.
Yours
sincerely,
Mohammed
Hegazi
While U Wait
09/04/2012
Their New Target
Whether it was the unjustifiable slow motion
performance of a government bureaucracy, or a premeditated tactic of stalling
on the part of some or all members of ASPA(Vic) Committee, it remains to be
seen whether a mediation meeting would take place, or to proceed directly to
court as per my fair letter of March 30, 2012
So in order to maintain your interest and to
keep you amused, here are a couple of emails:
from: Mohammed A. Hegazi
to: carol johnsen
cc: “Jenny Brysha” ,
“Andrew Fisher” ,
“Norma Fisher” ,
“Dianne Gibson” ,
“Trevor Halsall” ,
“Cheryle Jerram” ,
“Gwen Lampre” ,
"Harry Malcolm” ,
"Sandra Masel" ,
"Marj Miller" ,
“Sarah Smith”
date: 5 April 2012 17:16
subject: Mediation DSCV Case No 12906/2011
Dear Carol,
I have noted the offensive note in your
reply to Harry. He never explicitly suggested that you were lying. He is
certainly justified in asking for an explanation and specific phone call dates
and names of contacts, in order to be able to understand how mediation has been
dodged for more than three months. Contact with outside bodies such as the DSCV
is the duty of the Secretary. My registered mail letter to the Secretary was
handled by Marj Miller, as shown by her unacceptable remark at the tail of your
email, which you did not truncate. She should have handed my confidential
letter unopen to the Secretary.
If phone calls were not a successful method
of communication, you should have sent Sarah Smith an email somewhat similar to
my reply, to her request for a telephone conversation, below:
Dear Serah,
You probably wanted to confirm these points:
(a) I am available at any time that would
suit all other parties. Just inform me of the time and venue of the proposed
meeting.
(b) As far as mediation is concerned with my
grievance, I am open to any eventualities that might result from a documented
thorough investigation of my case, in the presence of impartial mediators. I
have no predetermined conditions for participation in a reconciliatory process.
I only hope that my adversaries would be prepared to adopt the same open-minded
approach.
(c) I will support the need for
constitutional reforms as proposed by Harry in order to make sure that
ASPA(Vic) would be a safe environment for future young players.
I cannot think of any other points to discuss
with you before the meeting, to which I have been invited. Please feel free to
email me with any further questions or concerns. I would promptly respond by
email. I prefer to have all matters of this case in written format.
Undocumented telephone conversations are not suitable for future reference.
(End of quoted text)
So, let’s do without unnecessary bickering.
If you are serious about finalising this affair, forward an email to the DSCV
and cc all parties concerned. This would be indisputable proof of your
communication. Claiming that you made unsuccessful phone calls for three months
is analogous to a child answering the phone with, “My dad says he is not here.”
Regards,
Mohammed
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From: Mohammed A. Hegazi
mohammedhegazi@gmail.com
to: “Trevor Halsall”
cc: “carol johnsen” ,
“Jenny Brysha” ,
“Andrew Fisher” ,
“Norma Fisher” ,
“Dianne Gibson” ,
“Cheryle Jerram” ,
“Gwen Lampre” ,
"Harry Malcolm” ,
"Sandra Masel" ,
"Marj Miller" ,
“Sarah Smith”
date: 6 April 2012 09:52
subject: Re DSCV 12906/2011
Trevor,
I noted that in your reply to Harry, you took
it upon yourself to come up with yet another lie. You stated, "Just to take up one of
your points, where you say Mohammed was caused loss of enjoyment of the game -
I draw your attention to the numerous emails that we received from a wide
variety of players who were regularly suffering loss of enjoyment prior to the
committee deciding to act in 2008." This is another ring
in a long chain of implicit and explicit character assassination attempts by
you. You know damn well that Carol Johnsen and Marj Miller have done their best
to invite and collate any trivia they could gather about my alleged “poor
conduct”. They finished with the miserable effort which you keep on calling
“the twelve submissions”. So, in the area of conniving and intrigue, you will
never be able to beat the masters by such clumsy improvisation.
You lied when you publicly claimed on a
discussion board that I was a cheat in at least five different tournaments. You
lied again when you claimed that I accused five people of cheating. Now, you
lie by claiming that you have been inundated with email complaints about me
prior to 2008.
I sincerely advise you to be careful before
you open your mouth with my name. Every time you do, it constitutes an
invitation for someone to stick his boot in it.
Mohammed
WHILE U R STILL
WAITING
19/05/2012
While Mediation
is vital from Harry's view point, to me it is only a precursor to a court case,
where things are impartially looked at and a judgement is passed according to
the law of the land. The losing party would foot the hefty legal bill. That
might lead on to a large number of very expensive fund-raising tournaments in
order to make up for the stubborn incompetence of a small number of
individuals, whom you would be able to count on the fingers of one hand, and
the passive nature of another number, whom you can count on the fingers of the
other hand. But I would put most of the blame on the majority of members who
allowed themselves to be hoodwinked to the extent of abstaining in a secret
ballot at the AGM of 2011.
So far, I have
witnessed unwarranted delays. Flimsy explanations have been given by the
procrastinating parties. However, I have stretched my patience in order to give
my adversaries the chance to reassess their position and to face the reality
that their shabby pretences have been exposed.
The passage of
time further strengthens my case. More members of ASPA(vic) are coming to grips
with the unacceptable procedures of the committees of 2008 and the present
committee of 2011. I am quite satisfied with the support I am getting,
especially from all the new members who met me for the first time after my
absence for a few years.
Anyway, the
following emails would sum up the haps on the mediation front:
(1)
On 16 May 2012 ,
DSCV wrote:
Dear Mr Hegazi,
Hope you are
well.
I am needing to
speak to you directly in order to confirm arrangements for the proposed
Mediation on Tuesday 22nd May at 1:30.
Could you please
contact our office on 960308370 when you are available.
As Sarah is on
leave could you please quote your reference number M12906/2011 and ask for
Maggie.
Hope to hear
from you soon.
Kind Regards
Maggie Rowe
Dispute
Assessment Officer
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(2)
On 16 May 2012,
Mohammed Hegazi wrote:
To:
dscv@justice.vic.gov.au
cc:
Jenny Brysha
Andrew Fisher
Norma Fisher
Dianne Gibson
Trevor Halsall
Cheryle Jerram
carol johnsen
Gwen Lampre
Harry Malcolm
Sandra Masel
Marj Miller
Subject: Re
M12906/2011
Dear Maggie,
I hereby confirm
and reiterate my availability as per today's telephone conversation.
I understand
that you have taken this file over from Sarah. I find phone contact with so
many parties to be cumbersome and time consuming for you; not to mention the
fact that you may find some parties to be elusive and often stall the process.
One email to all parties concerned would do the job with a minimum of effort.
If one party or another would ignore your email, the meeting should proceed
without them. I hope you can see the merit of my humble suggestion. This case
has taken too long since its inception in 2011, presumably because of
communication difficulties.
Regards,
Mohammed Hegazi
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(3)
On 17 May 2012,
DSCV wrote:
Dear Mr Hegazi
Thank you for
your email.
Please be
advised that unfortunately at this stage we will be cancelling the tentative
date for Mediation on 22nd May at 1:30, as we have been unable to make final
arrangements with all parties.
We request you
contact our office on 9603 8370 to discuss this matter further.
Kind Regards
Maggie Rowe
Dispute
Assessment Officer
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(4)
Re: M12906/2011
On 18 May 2012,
Mohammed Hegazi wrote:
To:
dscv@justice.vic.gov.au
cc:
Jenny Brysha
Andrew Fisher
Norma Fisher
Dianne Gibson
Trevor Halsall
Cheryle Jerram
carol johnsen
Gwen Lampre
Harry Malcolm
Sandra Masel
Marj Miller
Dear Ms Rowe,
Your office
decided on Friday 10/05/2012 as a tentative date for a mediation meeting. Mr
Malcolm was informed about it, but I was not. The tentative date was abandoned,
due to the unavailability of a small room for the meeting.
Your office
decided on Tuesday 22/05/2012 as another tentative date. Both Mr Malcolm and
myself were informed about it. I am not sure if ASPA(Vic) were or were not
informed, because you prefer to use a complex phone call system to clear
informative email messages.
Now, I am
informed by email that the new tentative date of 22/05/2012 has been abandoned
because you were “unable to make final arrangements with all parties”. I have
already informed Mr Malcolm about this development, since he has not yet been
informed by your office.
I am not
interested in tentative dates. Please inform me by email only if you reach a
firm date for the proposed meeting, or if you have reached the conclusion that
ASPA(Vic) are not interested in attending such meeting.
Both Mr Malcolm
and myself have clearly stated that we were ready to attend a mediation meeting
on any firm date suggested by the DSCV. You do not have to confirm our
availability, because we are available on any date suitable for all other
parties; that is: Your mediators, ASPA(Vic) and the small room for the proposed
meeting.
Regards,
Mohammed Hegazi
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(5)
On 18 May 2012,
Harry cc'd me with a stern email to the DSCV, in relation to these unwarranted
delays. However, I am unable to divulge the contents without his consent.
Hegazi vs ASPA(Vic) Part 5
19/6/2012
Eventually,
we had a mediation meeting on 15/06/2012. It failed dismally. ASPA(Vic) had
three delegates, who were the least capable of sensibly represent the
Association:
Trevor
Halsall insisted that I cheated, this time, three times. The counters on his
abacus seem to keep on moving to and fro, in order to suit a given situation.
He showed total disregard of the fact that no substantiated accusations of
cheating existed, none whatsoever.
Marjorie
Miller displayed her fake emotional fatigue and was almost in tears resenting
my presumed accusation of her being a cheat.
Carol Johnsen
twisted and turned showing her imaginary legal prowess, that kept most
committee members under her spell.
Such nonsense
did not impress the mediators, who remained composed, save for shouting once at
Trevor to shut him up when he interrupted Harry Malcolm.
In the
aftermath, I forwarded this email:
Subject: Post
Mediation
17 June 2012
To: Jenny,
Andrew, Norma, Dianne, Trevor, Cheryle, Carol, Gwen, Sandra, Marj,
Cc: Harry
Dear
Committee members,
As you may
already know, your delegates to mediation failed to agree to repeal the
decision in 2008 that I have committed acts unbecoming a member. Therefore, the
only avenue open to me now is legal action.
I have to
check whether a court case could be filed without recourse to VCAT, which is a
body responsible for solving problems associated with administrative errors of
incorporated associations.
I am writing
to you as a committee of ten in order for you to discuss the matter amongst
yourselves and to come up with a final decision, which can only be one of the
following two outcomes:
(1) Repeal of
the decision of 2008 that I have committed acts unbecoming a member. In which
case, this would be the end of this matter.
(2)
Confirming that as a committee, you sanction the decision of your delegates to
mediation. In which case, I would initiate legal action. I must emphasise that
any future out-of-court settlement between my solicitor and the Association’s
solicitor would have as a condition payment by the Association of all my legal
and incidental cost.
Non-reply to
this email for two weeks would imply that you have opted for outcome (2).
Regards to
all,
Mohammed
Hegazi
Now, it is up
to the Committee to act in the interest of all members, or to keep on the same
track and squander funds. I will persist until justice is achieved.
============================
Reply to your
letter of demand of 17 June 2012Sunday, 24 June, 2012 9:29 AM
From:
"carol johnsen"
To:
"Mohammed A. Hegazi" , "Mohammed A. Hegazi" , "harry malcolm"
Cc:
"andrew fisher" , "carol johnsen" , "Cheryle
Jerram" , "dianne gibson" , "gwen lampre" ,
"Jenny Brysha" , "marjorie miller" , "Norma
Fisher" , "sandra masel" , "Trevor Halsall" ,
"Trevor Halsall" trevor_halsall@medibank.com.au
Dear
Mohammed,
Point (1),
the current committee is not repealing the decision of 2008.
Point (2),
there was no decision / outcome reached at mediation. And we do not agree to
any pay any of your legal and incidental costs now or in the future.
Please note
that this Association will no longer entertain any communication with you on
this matter.
Yours
faithfully,
CAROL JOHNSEN
President,
ASPA (Vic) Inc
============================
My Comment:
Ms Johnsen
failed to realise that further communication will have to be via my solicitor.
As to payment of my expenses, it would be via negotiation between solicitors.
Solicitors usually try to avoid court appearances, in order to minimise the
cost of the losing party. My letter is to warn her that such negotiations would
have as a precondition payment of my legal fees, as an alternative to payment
of additional court fees. Apparently, she did not understand.
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